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Software for AIAG-VDA FMEA

Discussion in 'FMEA - Failure Modes and Effects Analysis' started by Pongsakorn, Feb 20, 2020.

  1. Pongsakorn

    Pongsakorn Active Member

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    Please advise if there is any Software for AIAG-VDA FMEA.
    I need the recommendation.
     
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    There are software packages available from companies such as Sphera, Omnex, Plato, and APIS. These are all powerful and expensive. AIAG has their Core Tools Software which is simpler and cheaper. Or you can use spreadsheets if your product or process is not very complex.
     
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    Could you help me to understand why software would be used instead of, say, a simple Excel spreadsheet? I am interested to understand what would need software to help with computing(?)
     
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    Thanks, I am working out with OMNEX in Thailand and also taking a look on AIAG Core Tools Software.
     
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    Andy, I have no experience in using FMEA Software but I heard that it could help in automated the linkage of Process flow > FMEA > Control Plan. My organization experienced mismatch among them. In addition, FMEA software start thinking process using FTA. Since I have to revise all FMEA to be in line with AIAG-VDA, I need to take this opportunity to start using software. However, I have to understand more first before buying.
     
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    I understand. My caution is that software won't help with the issue you have! And this approach to FMEA isn't like the old 4th edition. It will need a full cross functional team - which is good - and will help you avoid the problems, before.

    I really like the AIAG-VDA method. Software might delay you getting the most benefit.
     
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    Andy, really thanks for your comment. I will assess the software capability and will share my assessment result to all.
     
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    Hello everyone,

    We have FMEA 4th edition (the blue book). FMEA was revised. did it turn to 5th edition (again blue cover page same)? or I see aiag&vda fmea handbook 1st edition on aiag and smmt page.
     
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    FMEA isn't revised! The 4th edition is still valid. There's a new way to do FMEA - it's called the AIAG/VDA FMEA - but it doesn't replace the 4th edition. It's simply a different way to construct an FMEA and treat the process. Think scrambled eggs vs omelet... Similar ingredients, similar process, different results
     
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    internal auditor said that RPN rule will change. it will be low-medium-high method. auditor said you will start to use this method for your new fmeas. if 4th edition is still valid what will we do for RPN etc.?
     
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    Your auditor is somewhat inaccurate. True, the RPN is replaced with Hi-Med-Lo Action Priority. The rest they said was incorrect AND inaccurate in that the method of AIAG/VDA FMEA is also quite different.

    Auditors may not have been trained yet (or even well) enough to be making such comments. There is no mandate to use the new method (yet) except for Mercedes suppliers. Check with your customer rep FIRST. I'd suggest contacting your CB and tell them their auditor is providing inaccurate information and it's misleading.

    Thanks for checking here.
     
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    thank you for your help. yes he told about mercedes. but he said that next year it will be mandatory.
     
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    Ask him where it says that...
     
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    Thank you Andy, you really cleared my mind. So the way we must follow is to tracking customer specific requirements and wait if customer informs us about new FMEA requirements.
    we have FMEA training already, do we need have taining again for aiag&vda fmea even we don't change any method etc.?
     
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    Unless you specifically have to - or have decided to - use AIAG-VDA FMEA you don't need to have training and, it's worthwhile NOT to have training until you need it. It's called "use-it-or-lose-it".
     

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