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PPAP for item(s) we do not manufacture.

Discussion in 'APQP and PPAP' started by Jamie Pinkard, Feb 14, 2018.

  1. Jamie Pinkard

    Jamie Pinkard New Member

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    We manufacture printing equipment but not the ink, we have customers asking for PPAP's for the ink. How do we get around this? How can we supply them with information?
     
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    Andy Nichols Moderator Staff Member

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    Jamie, if you can't dodge this, there's some guidance on PPAPs for bulk materials, available from the AIAG (in the USA) or your local IATF affiliate.
     
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    You should get the ink ppap from the ink people. Not sure what the value would be.
     
  4. Jamie Pinkard

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    We have been trying to get a PPAP from the manufacturer of the ink, but they are in Germany and sell to many different industries and honestly have not responded to any of my emails.
     
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    Golfman25 Well-Known Member

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    Not surprising. No real value getting a ppap for essentially and off the shelf product. This sounds like some mindless requirement just being pushed down onto you. A conversation with the customer may help, but you are really at the mercy of the ink provider.
     
  6. Jamie Pinkard

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    Unfortunately you are correct. Is there an "exclusive" or "clause" I can implement when corresponding with my customer? Our inks are automotive approved and we do have certification from our ink supplier, my customer just does not understand that I cannot produce a PPAP for an item that we do not physically manufacture, but just distribute.
     
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    I guess you can't force them to understand, but you can't provide what you can't provide.
     
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    Is this a new requirement? At my last company and my current company we don't PPAP or IMDS labels or ink.
     
  9. Jamie Pinkard

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    Over the past year our customers have been asking, prior to that no one asked for a PPAP on ink. I don't know or why the recent requests have been like this. How do you get around this? We do not do IMDS either, I have a letter from my ink supplier that we don't do IMDS either, but my customers insist on it.
     
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    It's not that we get around it, its that we haven't been asked.
     

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