All; I am going to past here the information being carried over from the conversation in the post "ISO 9001:2015 Lead Auditor Course" on the "ISO 9001:2015 forum.... Group; While we're on this subject, let's discuss the actual term "Lead Auditor", as it is an ill-defined and often mis-identified term. A "lead auditor" is an accreditation body term and to truly gain the accurate title "Lead Auditor" it requires more than a test. Most requirements include "X" amount of auditing hours with an existing certified auditor and endorsed organization/program. The origin of "Lead Auditor" is actually a position given to an associate of an accreditation body and not originally (currently?) intended to be for individuals outside of the AB circles. An example of oddly (wrongly?) using the term "Lead Auditor" is as follows... IATF 16949 (the expanded "automotive version"of ISO 9001:2015) requires CSR (Customer Specific Requirements) be met. In the case of General Motors, GM throws the term "Lead AUditor" around in a manner that I understand to be quite loose when compared to the term's actual "definition"/intent. e.g.... 188.8.131.52.1 Second-party audits (from GM's CSR)... 2. The organization (2nd party) must utilize a qualified ISO Lead Auditor, or a qualified internal auditor with evidence of their successful completion of training, and a minimum of five internal ..." I would infer from GM's use of the term "Lead Auditor" that GM suppliers essentially need to train an associate (i.e. SQE, etc...) for a career with an AB in order to meet GM's requirement. @Andy Nichols , continuing our conversation from the noted forum/post..... So, what say you in regards to a GM supplier ? I see no way for them to meet GM's CSR (customer specific requirements) without either having a staff member take a "Lead Auditor" Exemplar Global endorsed course OR outsource process and 2nd party audits to someone who has. Thoughts?