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Layered Process Audit Compliance

Discussion in 'IATF 16949:2016 - Automotive Quality Systems' started by qmr1976, Sep 14, 2020.

  1. qmr1976

    qmr1976 Member

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    I rarely reach out for advice. I try to respond to other's inquiries more than anything but this issue has me frustrated at the moment and wanted to reach out to others to try and get some fresh ideas and possibly a different approach to my situation. LPA compliance has declined considerably within the last few months. COVID somewhat contributed to this, but we were struggling prior to and after COVID. I want to remain compliant, yet still meet our customer specific requirements for LPAs. I have scaled back our schedule where we could and have updated our LPAs to be more effective but they still aren't getting done. I am being told by upper management we need to shorten the LPAs and break them out more because the people performing the LPAs are getting overwhelmed and don't see the value in them, which is fine. They also want to make them electronic, which I am totally on board with as well. However, in my experience you can make it easier, more efficient and sometimes the task still doesn't get done. It's all about discipline. So, was just wondering if anyone has struggled with this as well, and if so how did you handle it?
     
  2. Andy Nichols

    Andy Nichols Moderator Staff Member

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    Reality is, even the FCA KTP 2 plant where they started, LPAs became a pencil whipping exercise. It's the nature of the thing. TBH, if you are in Quality, you should "gift" LPAs to Manufacturing management who should own the thing. It's NOT a Quality tool. It's a Process Control tool - nothing more or less.

    My take is, scale them back to parts of the process where something isn't working well, like FPY or where something is new/changed. Only those things.
     
  3. qmr1976

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    OK. Thank you for your input and yes LPAs have a major rep for being pencil whipped and I would rather someone not do them vs. pencil whipping them because they have just as much value as if someone just went through the motions. They can be a good tool, if actually used properly.
     
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