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Forms mandatory requirements

Discussion in 'ISO 9001:2015 - Quality Management Systems' started by vkmummer, May 28, 2020.

  1. vkmummer

    vkmummer New Member

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    Hi,

    our company is following ISO9001:2015. while creating specific forms templates our QC insisted to mention "effective dates" in all forms along with form number and revision. is this a mandatory requirement as per ISO? please clarify
     
  2. Andy Nichols

    Andy Nichols Moderator Staff Member

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    If you have access to the standard, a quick read will tell you that it's NOT in there. None of those things are "mandatory". The problem with having people tell you that this or that is "required" is that they hope you don't know any different. Check what your local document control procedure(s) say. Your organization may have elected to do those things, because someone thinks that's good practice (it isn't) and unless you can get that changed, you may be stuck with that practice. But it's not mandated in ISO 9001.
     
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    Golfman25 Well-Known Member

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    Curious. Why isn't is a good practice?
     
  4. Andy Nichols

    Andy Nichols Moderator Staff Member

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    It's common practice. It's not (now) good practice. Forms don't need numbering. A form can be filed by name. "Effective date" doesn't need to be on the form, the same communication can be made through the use of a Document Change Note which conveys much more additional useful information, like WHY something changed. A revision MIGHT be useful, but there are (electronic) means of achieving the same result that don't resort to "revision" details.
     
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    Not mandatory requirement. But should you opt to indicate those in your forms, put them in footers. (see attached sample)
     

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