Dismiss Notice
You must be a registered member in order to post messages and view/download attached files in this forum.
Click here to register.

5.3 Organizational roles, responsibilities, and authorities

Discussion in 'ISO 9001:2015 - Quality Management Systems' started by jaltangerel, Feb 19, 2018.

  1. jaltangerel

    jaltangerel Member

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2017
    Messages:
    49
    Likes Received:
    15
    Trophy Points:
    7
    Location:
    Mongolia
    There are one or more management representatives work for QMS in the organization?
    For example
    is it possible to head of each department do their own job + management representative's responsibilities and duties?
     
  2. Qualmx

    Qualmx Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2015
    Messages:
    443
    Likes Received:
    58
    Trophy Points:
    27
    Location:
    Mexico
    It is possible.
    Iso asks top management to apply leadership, doesn't mean he has to do everything, but can delegate activities to heads.
     
  3. Qualmx

    Qualmx Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2015
    Messages:
    443
    Likes Received:
    58
    Trophy Points:
    27
    Location:
    Mexico
    Now is not a requirement, I refer to the functions
     
    jaltangerel and Augustine like this.
  4. yodon

    yodon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2015
    Messages:
    138
    Likes Received:
    75
    Trophy Points:
    27
    You should notice that the "management representative" has been removed from the :2015 version. In table A.1, they state that it's no longer used and note "Similar responsibilities and authorities are assigned
    but no requirement for a single management representative."
     
    jaltangerel likes this.
  5. Andy Nichols

    Andy Nichols Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2015
    Messages:
    4,020
    Likes Received:
    2,023
    Trophy Points:
    112
    Location:
    In the "Rust Belt"
    It may be possible, but it's not effective! Having many people be responsible for the QMS? That's borderline silliness. How/who would arrange the Management Review? If you are considering Process Ownership, that's better and different. It isn't going to work for Management Rep - whether the standard requires one or not.
     
    jaltangerel likes this.
  6. jaltangerel

    jaltangerel Member

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2017
    Messages:
    49
    Likes Received:
    15
    Trophy Points:
    7
    Location:
    Mongolia
    Thanks dear for all of advises.

    is it not mandatory requirement in ISO 2015, that company's CEO assign a Management Rep(for example QA manager) for QMS?
    Who is more suitable to take responsibility for reporting and other duties of QMS ?
     
  7. Qualmx

    Qualmx Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 7, 2015
    Messages:
    443
    Likes Received:
    58
    Trophy Points:
    27
    Location:
    Mexico
    In order for the people can see a relevant person, preferably a director, someone who has top authorities, that action give signal to people that Qms is important , sometimes the error is to assign in such position to the quality assistant, which cause to people a different reaction regarding the qms importance.
     
    jaltangerel likes this.
  8. Andy Nichols

    Andy Nichols Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2015
    Messages:
    4,020
    Likes Received:
    2,023
    Trophy Points:
    112
    Location:
    In the "Rust Belt"
    No. All the leadership, in reality "own" the processes of the QMS. Having one person who "owns" the QMS is going back 25 years! Think processes and process owners.
     
    Ted82 and jaltangerel like this.
  9. jaltangerel

    jaltangerel Member

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2017
    Messages:
    49
    Likes Received:
    15
    Trophy Points:
    7
    Location:
    Mongolia
    Thank you Andy for your study

    I've understood it was a good idea to appoint one person to the QMS. o_O
     
    Andy Nichols likes this.

Share This Page