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4.2.3.1 Engineering Specifications

Discussion in 'IATF 16949:2016 - Automotive Quality Systems' started by Hampton, Jun 3, 2016.

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    Good Morning Quality Professionals! We have run across a question that has become a point of contention among management and a TS consultant that is helping us move toward certification. Regarding the subject clause, what are some real-world examples that we could consider? What sort of process have you seen put in place that satisfies this requirement? What are some examples of changes that we are to be documenting with records? (ie, rev levels for prints?) Through our research (and the 'help' of the consultant), we cannot draw a neat box around this clause and determine action items to move in the right direction. Thank you all in advance!
     
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    Hi Hampton! Well, we'd need a bit more information. Like, are these YOUR Engineering specs? The customers? What are you looking to comply with, specifically as far as "processes"? Control? The development of specs? Huh, huh?;)
     
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    A lot will depend on your organization. Bottom line you need to make sure that changes to eng. specs. are reviewed within 2 weeks. In our case we generally have two types - prints and specifications (you know the long multipage documents laying out standards for material, plating, painting, etc.). Each gets reviewed by engineering. Print changes usually require some type of PPAP documentation, so those records are easier. Spec. changes get reviewed, updated internally if necessary (routings and such), and filed. Try to keep it simple and effective. We have yet to have this questioned by a third party. Good luck.
     
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    One process where you can readily relate the requirements in clause 4.2.3.1 is when there are Engineering Change Requests that must be decided upon by a multidisciplinary team. I have attached a sample form for your reference.
     

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    Easy what are the requirements of the product?
    Capacity,tons per hour,working temperature, and so on,which standard to comply ansi,api,etc.
    For changes,suppose you agreed certain conditions and suddenly your client changes you the capacity,well that is a change that needs to be documented.
    Hope this helps
    Pd we are an engineering company and we manage this issue as explained above
     
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    Thank you all for your feedback and resources. The specifications we are managing are the customers', not ours. Requirements of the product are strictly dimensional (fit/form/function).
     
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    So you have to control them and make them readily (timely) available. What was the beef the consultant had?
     

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