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Examples of risk analysis

Discussion in 'ISO 9001:2015 - Quality Management Systems' started by QDCED, Apr 3, 2023.

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    QDCED New Member

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    Hello everyone,

    I work in a distributor company that does not have production. What do you think are the risks that may occur in the quality management department? We use the ISO 9001 quality management system. What risks exist regarding documentation, CAPA, customer complaints, etc.? I request your help.
     
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    You may be looking at risk a bit sideways. It wouldn't be limited to the quality management department. There are risks with those elements you mention: documentation (you may lose a document or record or use an outdated version of a document), CAPA (you may fail to identify root causes), customer complaints (you may lose some or fail to act in a timely manner), but think of risk from the service you provide. If you're a distributor, what can go wrong? Can you distribute the wrong materials (or wrong count)? Send to the wrong recipients? Distribute expired materials? Mix up returned goods with goods that are eligible for distribution? I think those are the types of risks you will want to consider to ensure that your service is high quality.
     
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    thanks for your return
    What you wrote about documentation, CAPA and complaints was very helpful and gave ideas. I was just looking for help for the quality department. We have completed the risks of other departments.
     
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    In terms of ISO 9001, the risks you are required to consider are really strategic in nature. You may be in risk of being sucked into the quicksand of department or specific process risks, and miss the “big picture”. Has your distribution business done a SWOT analysis as an organization?
     
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    What can go wrong?
    • Incorrect documentation - including everything from BOL to your inventory system, traceability, labeling, part revision number tracking, expiration date management, on and on.
    • CAPAs? How well do your people handle CAPAs? Is everyone engaged? Is the system easy to use, or a spreadsheet that requires constant clicking so the actions fall behind and no one notices?
    • Customer complaints? How about misunderstanding them/ignoring them/failure to follow up on success of your CAPAs?
     
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    There is a real danger that you will miss what is meant in ISO 9001. If you go and take a look at the requirements relating to risks, you'll see that in section 6 6.1.1 is pointing you to section 4 which is the context, which discusses purpose and strategic direction. This is high level stuff and is likely to affect the whole organization, regardless of departmental structure. Things to consider are described in ISO/TS 9002 (through the suggested use of SWOT or PESTLE type analysis). By focusing on a specific departmental "risk", you are likely missing the point entirely.

    Did someone tell you that departmental risks have to be considered?
     
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    In ISO/TS 9002:2016 (Guidelines for the application of ISO 9001:2015), this paragraph in section 6.1.1 contains tools that can be used at planning, not just in strategic level, but also in the operational level:

    "In determining risks and opportunities, the organization can consider using the outputs of techniques such as SWOT or PESTLE. Other approaches can include techniques such as Failure Mode and Effects Analysis (FMEA); Failure Mode, Effects and Criticality Analysis (FMECA); or Hazard Analysis and Critical Control Points (HACCP). It is for the organization to decide which methods or tools it should use. Simpler approaches include techniques such as brainstorming, Structured What If Technique (SWIFT) and consequences/probability matrices."
     
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    Documentation risks - internal document not consistent with reference standards; use of superseded documents for the current operation; user has a hard time of accessing the documents; unauthorized reproduction of documents; lost of documents issued to copyholders; a copyholder claims that he/she hasn't received yet a copy but was already issued to him/her; can't access electronic documents; hacking of electronic documents; unauthorized alteration of documents/records; loss of documents/records; loss of legibility; damage to documents/records; falsifying records; omissions of important information; inaccurate information; typographical errors;

    CAPA risks - wrong criteria used in raising a nonconformity; forcing to tie a NC against an ISO 9001 clause but not relevant; incomplete statement of a problem or NC; statement of NC lacks the description of objective evidence; confusion in the definition of CA and PA; confusion in the definition of Correction and CA; wrong cause identified; management does not support the Correction and CA; target completion dates not followed; verification of action is only focused on determining whether the planned activities are realized and failed to check whether planned results are achieved; CA in one area not extended to other area/s that the same problem/NC might occur;

    Customer complaint risks - trying to initiate CA for all types of complaints; incomplete information obtained from the complaining customer; actions not communicated to the customer; see also CAPA risks.