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Process Based Auditing

Discussion in 'IATF 16949:2016 - Automotive Quality Systems' started by bkirch, Jun 4, 2019.

  1. bkirch

    bkirch Active Member

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    When perform system internal audits, per IATF 16949, I understand that we need to be auditing our processes, not a canned checklist that list the IATF clauses and their requirements. My question is that when we are getting audited by a third party, is there any requirement that states that we have to show evidence that we have audited all of the IATF clauses?
     
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    Only, in so far as the whole system (and correspondingly the whole of the applicable requirements, plus CSRs) is supposed to be audited every three years. As far as each audit? You cannot audit every requirement, that would be ridiculous.
     
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    What you'll want is a cross reference as to where in you system each clause is handled. Some clauses may have 2 or 3 touch points -- say the Context/Leadership stuff. One might touch those in both a business planning process and a management review process. The benefit will be when the auditor asks about a clause (they kinda know what clauses to expect where), you'll be able to direct them to the appropriate process.
     
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    Full disclosure - I am not an IATF expert by any stretch of the imagination; I'm over on the ISO side of things.

    That said, having a matrix that shows your processes how they relate to the sections of the standard (e.g., O = Owner, U = User, S = Support...or even a RACI format) may, when you show which processes were audited, it will imply that those applicable clauses were audited, as well. Or, if the audits were limited (e.g., only 3 of 5 applicable clauses were audited for Process A), then highlighting those 3 would indicate which clauses were audited.
     
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