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8.4 Control of externally provided processes, products and services

Discussion in 'IATF 16949:2016 - Automotive Quality Systems' started by Diego_99atv, Jun 16, 2020.

  1. Diego_99atv

    Diego_99atv Member

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    Hello

    We have a Remote site where all the activities for Evaluation, monitor, selection are performed, regarding the 8.4 IATF,(For Raw Material).

    On my site we work with supplier services like Sorting, Tooling, Fixtures.

    This kind of services must meet the 8.4 clause?

    Thank you
     
  2. John C. Abnet

    John C. Abnet Well-Known Member

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    Good day @Diego_99atv ;
    If the "remote site" that you are referring is part of your same company/organization, then it is officially defined as a "support function".

    IATF section 3.1 Terms and Definitions defines "support function" as follows...
    * Non-production activity (conducted on site or at a remote l location), that supports one (or more) manufacturing sites of the SAME organization".


    As you can see, if this fits your scenario, then your "support function" site is NOT a supplier as defined and controlled by clause 8.4. The "support function" is instead an integrated part of your organization's processes and activities and should be handled as such.

    The "support function"(s) must be defined on your organization's scope of the QMS and will be audited by the 3rd party auditor specific to the roles/functions/"scope" of their support function.

    I hope this helps.

    Be well.
     
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    Andy Nichols Moderator Staff Member

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    Are you asking, Diego, if the sorting suppliers, tooling and fixture suppliers should be evaluated? The answer is yes. They can affect product quality, but they won't need to be evaluated by the remote site or to the same criteria. You get to decide who and how these types of supplier are selected, evaluated and monitored.
     
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