Dismiss Notice
You must be a registered member in order to post messages and view/download attached files in this forum.
Click here to register.

45001 compliance with 18001

Discussion in 'OHSAS - Occupational Health and Safety' started by Stephen Dallas, Mar 21, 2019.

Tags:
  1. Stephen Dallas

    Stephen Dallas Member

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2019
    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    2
    Hi - just a quick question - If my company were to achieve compliance with the 45001 standard, would that mean they would automatically also be compliant with 18001? In other words, are there any stipulations in 18001 that aren't in 45001, or does 45001 provide more definition and stringency in each clause?
    Thanks from N Wales, UK.
     
  2. Andy Nichols

    Andy Nichols Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jul 30, 2015
    Messages:
    2,521
    Likes Received:
    1,306
    Trophy Points:
    112
    Location:
    In the "Rust Belt"
    Stephen - ISO 45001 replaced OSHAS 18001, so it's not technically possible, but there are parts in 45001, which aren't in 18001. "Context" comes to mind.
     
    Stephen Dallas and John C. Abnet like this.
  3. tony s

    tony s Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2015
    Messages:
    836
    Likes Received:
    596
    Trophy Points:
    92
    Location:
    Laguna Philippines
    A wider perspective in terms of risks management. Now, organizations are not only required to identify risks from the identified hazards. Risks related in establishing, implementing, and maintaining an OH&S management system is also required to be controlled. The same is true for opportunities.
     
  4. Stephen Dallas

    Stephen Dallas Member

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2019
    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    2
    Sorry late reply Andy. Many thanks for your response. Steve
     
  5. Stephen Dallas

    Stephen Dallas Member

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2019
    Messages:
    7
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    2
    Thanks Tony, much appreciate your input.
     
  6. Jennifer Kirley

    Jennifer Kirley Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2015
    Messages:
    750
    Likes Received:
    535
    Trophy Points:
    92
    Location:
    USA
    There is relatively little in 45001 that 18001 does not ask for, though they use different language in places. 45001 does not require "documented procedures" (18001, 4.4.6) though there is a requirement for "maintaining and retaining documented information to the extent necessary to have confidence that the processes have been carried out as planned" (45001, 8.1.1c). Notice that if we were to get picky, 8.1.1c of 45001 refers to a past tense; therefore it could be argued that 8.1.1 better applies: "The organization shall plan, implement, control and maintain the processes needed to meet requirements..."

    Two interesting additions are "...adapting work to workers (45001, 8.1.1d) and "[hazard identification of] ...including consideration of situations occuring in the vicinity of the workplace caused by work-related activities under the control of the organization." (6.1.2.1f2)

    In 45001, in addition to the risks and opportunities look for a much more detailed set of requirements for top management (5.1), as well as employee participation and consultation (5.4, interestingly also now in the Leadership and commitment section instead of communication. Several of the management review inputs are now required to be trended.
     

Share This Page