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What is TS 16949 "Blue Book"?

Discussion in 'IATF 16949:2016 - Automotive Quality Systems' started by Mukesh Sharma, Feb 28, 2017.

  1. Mukesh Sharma

    Mukesh Sharma Member

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    Hello All
    Can someone explain me, what is the TS blue book?
     
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    It probably refers to the collection of manuals from AIAG covering topics such as MSA, FMEA, APQP, PPAP, SPC, etc. See AIAG and look for the blue book icons.

    This is a collection of all the blue books.
     
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    Yes aiag books. But they have "nothing" to do with TS. They come from the old QS days. TS doesn't even refer to them. They usually get pulled in by customer requirements. They haven't really been updated so and use a lot of guideline language. So using them can be a minefield.

    Here's an example. One of the books has a feasibility form many use to do a review. The last update (2008?) added "risk" as part of the review. Well the form was never "updated" so if you still used it you could end up with a non conformance.
     
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    IATF16949 which is replacing TS16949 and does reference AIAG documents heavily in Annex B: bibliography - supplemental automotive.

    "Annex B is provided for guidance to implement the IATF 16949 requirements unless otherwise specified by customer specific requirements" from IATF16949 page 7.


    Also, many automotive customer specific requirements require using AIAG documents and processes.
     
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    As said Annex B also emphasizes VDA books.
    When it comes down to it if the customer says use this or that guidebook then you must.
    If not use what you want
    They are only auditable if the customer makes them so
     
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