Organisation reluctant to merge 9001 & 14001 Management Systems.

Good Morning everyone, a quick question.

We're currently certified to ISO 9001, I believe my organisation is also beginning to pursue ISO 14001 certification, I suggested that we simply merge the two Management systems as we build them due to their similarities, I was told:
"No, because that means the 14001 content within our manual is then up for scrutiny/auditable by ISO 9001 Auditor's.

This doesn't sound right to me, surely a 9001 auditor would simply overlook any content within our QMS that addresses 14001 requirements & vice versa? it has absolutely no relevancy to them at all. I'm absolutely positive I'm right here?

Have a nice day,

 

Hi Andy, Happy New Year to you too! Hope all is well!

That makes sense & clarifies/confirms what I was thinking.

I never considered the cost though, so thanks for bringing that to my attention, should this topic pop up again it's definitely a great point to put across.

Thanks for your help as always Andy, I hope you have a great year!

 

Absolutely what @Andy Nichols said.

Integration will help prevent redundancy, inconsistencies, etc..etc..etc... SOOO....many aspects of 9001 and 14001 'overlap' .

Be well.

 

I would suggest that you already have a single management system ("how you run the business"), with perhaps two sets of documentation aimed at showing compliance with separate standards. While you may need or choose to have independent processes for (eg) auditing against each standard, most other aspects of business will be common. Define your system for the business, not for an auditor!