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Gage pin calibration.

Discussion in 'ISO 9001:2015 - Quality Management Systems' started by Gary K, Mar 14, 2022.

  1. Gary K

    Gary K New Member

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    In a company with thousands of pin gages in multiple sets What is the best way to control calibration. The only options I know are as follows
    1. have all sets calibrated(very costly)
    2. verify with calibrated mic at each use and record on each order(hard to enforce. many will forget or just not do)
    Any suggestions welcome
     
  2. Andy Nichols

    Andy Nichols Moderator Staff Member

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    Verification is fine. It's a "health check" and, as such will indicate the correct size and (potentially) any damage done since last use. No need to calibrate!
     
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    Thanks Andy. I ask the question question because your responce is exactly what I thought, However I had a outside pre auditor tell me that I had to have a record of what each pin used measured at.
     
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    I see no reason not to record on a job sheet or similar that it was done. After all the organization is not absolved of the need to demonstrate the suitability of equipment, regardless of the methods used. I'm not always certain auditors give a valid reason (or know why) but I'd suggest a record. If for no other reason than, if you get a rejection from a customer, you can pull the record.
     
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    I use gauge pins as reference only, much like gauge blocks. I send my blocks out once per 5 years for external calibration, and the other 4 years I calibrate them in-house using the CMM (which is NIST-traceable calibrated by 3rd party). Gauge pins are calibrated on a 3 yr cycle, using a NIST-traceable micrometer, with a resolution of 0.0001". Pins are calibrated to +0.0002'/-0
     
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    We used to dip all of our gage pins in wax after calibration. Only pins that had the wax removed were recalibrated. This may not answer your entire question, but will reduce the total expense.
     
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    I like that idea! This method would work well on our gauge kits for recurring jobs.
     
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    This opens up a possibility to schedule your recalibration based on the number of times a pin was used rather than calendar time.
     
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    Phew! Thanks for clarification, Ron!;)
     
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    We have thousands of gage pins we use daily and we do them each use. We have the following certifications.... ISO 9001:2015, ISO 13485:2016, & AS9100 Rev D. For the documentation of the pins we check the pin on a calibrated micrometer or laser mic and have this as a pass or fail on our inspection plan. For the no-go pins we drop the pin size down .0001 or use a minus pin to account for the pin tolerance. Standard Deltronic Class X pins is the majority of what we use.
     
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